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Upgraded bank security.
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Author:  SoulThief [Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Upgraded bank security.
First-off Hi, I'm back, got two mass e-mailed mails, so it was about time to check up on you people.
I've seen lots progress and unfortunatly some downsizes aswell (where the heck do I buy my Aux. Gateway now?)

Anywhow, the one thing I hated, purely HATED about this game, was the ease of bank hacking, albeit sure, you'll first need to get the proper tools and those are expensive, but I want more of a challenge.

Like a LAN, you connect to a single terminal and from there you'll have to find you way into the mainframe.
To me more promesing and satisfying than playing a dumb game of Lights-out.

So, there anyway, to make bank hacking more challenging?
Author:  Darkknight512 [Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:32 pm ]
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It would be nice to make the bank's HuGe lan (with VPN's and stuff), like the VPN connects multiple branches, then in the middle the main server, something like this is important (whats the point in playing the game if you have 700 million credits?).
Author:  SoulThief [Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:31 am ]
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That's just it, paying for a mission should've been somewhat lower, and there needs to be more to be bought, so you can expand your Gateway even more.
The ram is a very nice addition.

Anyhow, that's what I hated the most, after awhile you've got so much money, and you've pretty much seen al the missions, that the game isn't fun anymore.
Author:  Darkknight512 [Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:16 pm ]
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What about upgrading Power Supplys and CPU cooling (For over clocking) something like 20 - 30% increase in speed.
Author:  FinalWarrior [Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:05 pm ]
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But the inherent problem with bankhacking is that, not only is it too easy to get in (once you've got the right software), but it's also too easy to get out. I mean, you erase transfer logs, disconnect, and erase bounce logs.

And suddenly, it's like no one actually cares that a large sum of money has disappeared.

Maybe some sort of money laundering system should be implemented for the game, to make sure that the stolen credits aren't traced down.

-- Griffinhart
Author:  Burningmace [Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:37 am ]
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I've thought about this a bit and have come up with an idea. As you would still require normal access to bank systems for legitimate purposes (creating new accounts, transferring money, etc) you can't just turn them into LANs.

So, my proposal would be to keep the standard bank systems as ATM terminals, but remove the admin panel from them. Then, the banks admin system should be put on a separate IP address as a LAN. To make it even harder, each bank's LAN should have a log server on it, which keeps backups of the transfer logs. So, to break into a bank to steal everyone's money, you have to break into the LAN and get the account numbers, then break into the bank terminal and transfer the cash separately. Once that's done, you have to go back onto the bank's LAN and remove the transfer log. I also think that all banks should have slightly faster active and passive traces.
Author:  Darkknight512 [Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:40 am ]
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Why not, first system is to manage your account, when you hack the admin account you get into the LAN.
Author:  spet [Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:18 pm ]
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I agree. Hacking banks is way too easy...
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To make it even harder, each bank's LAN should have a log server on it, which keeps backups of the transfer logs.
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Why not, first system is to manage your account, when you hack the admin account you get into the LAN.
That would be great: The "front" system is as we know it, but the access the logs, you'd have to crack the banks LAN, find the log-server and delete the logs -- all in a timely fashion :)
Author:  Soldier of Light [Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:35 am ]
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You want to make the passive trace faster than it is? I'm assuming you mean the passive trace from hacking the admin account or starting a trace, because making the trace after a balance transfer faster while implementing this whole LAN idea would just... make it impossible. I like the idea of having a lot more security, I think it would add some challenge to the game, just make sure that it's doable.
Author:  Burningmace [Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:01 pm ]
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Well at the moment the trace times for banks are pretty lax. Of course it needs to be possible to hack, it just needs to be harder. I think the trace times just need tweaking after the Terminal/LAN system is tested.
Author:  SoulThief [Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:00 pm ]
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The thing is how do they see you "Hacking" in the system?

With Uplink it's like, the admins are there behind the friggin' screen 24/7

Not to mention that when you have normal access to an account eg. Name and Password.
Than how can this be considered hacking within 2 secs?

Plus the fact that the bank retrace is DAMNLY fast.
Within 10 in. they got you.

So there needs to be some kind of ellusion system, not something that directly gets to your main gateway, but to a hub.
Author:  Darkknight512 [Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:18 pm ]
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If we make the bank into a LaN we can make VPNs (each with there own verification code to access the remote server), the LaN must be huge (your connecting over 500 networks [individual banks]) administrators have the ability lock down areas ,ultra complex systems of fileservers, clients, super computer(s), vault control, ATM's. Stuff that would be on the system like security cameras, sprinkler system, power system, air conditioning ,etc. to add more stuff you have to dig through and the Primary server for online banking.
Author:  Kjeldar [Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:11 pm ]
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that sounds nice, but then, the trace should be MUCH slower... and it should look like a laberynth, so you can escape the sysop with a lil skill...
Author:  Darkknight512 [Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:14 pm ]
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But can you even get to the money?
Every bank branch has an admin when you move through the VPNs you trigger more and more, and your trace will be much faster.
Of coarse each branch would be quite big.
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