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To make it a bit more interesting...
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Author:  Diamond_2005 [Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  To make it a bit more interesting...
I was thinking...

In the original Uplink bank accounts are very easily cracked (pass breaker and proxy disable/bypass are quite enough) :(

Every uplink agent has it's own bank account (or more of them) that is/are equally vunerable.
Now, you could implement some random attacks to agent's account, nothing too big.
Occasionally, a couple of thousand creds would be mysteriously transferred from your account
to another one. That way, you could get a chance to work for yourself and kill the time waiting for something to happen.

It'd be interesting to work your ass out to buy the latest CPU (or else) and then find out that most of your money has been stolen. That way you can get the money back and as a bonus hack the FBI and put the bastard who did it away for, let's say 10 years. Sweet :wink:

Just an idea...
Would apprechiate some feedback...any kind...
Author:  LaZer [Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:39 pm ]
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I like your idea that other agents might work against you.
They could also try to put you into jail :P

I see two problems there:
-You could end up in jail / without money without a warning.
-You don't gain anything by fixing the problem, or said differently:
You don't get a reward like you do when you accomplish a mission. :?

That somehow gave me another idea.

How about an underground organisation that is not official like uplink and is not easy to find and get into?
There you could do special missions, maybe a second storyline?! :D

I'd like to try a few things myself but i don't have the code :(
Author:  Nightruler [Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:41 pm ]
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If you get tossed in jail, you should have to hack out from the jail to clear your record. The machine you have access to is a very low powered machine, but you can access your own gateway to copy any files you need (password_breaker and such). Or a bit harder, have to find a copy of your files on a backup server you have (good reason to keep backups) becuase your gateway is taken away.

The jail computer should only be able to be used from say 10am till noon or such so your limited on time or have to spend another day in jail.

If your cought hacking from the jail your computer restrictions are revoked and game over.

This allows special missions that can only be done from jail too, would be interesting to have to frame yourself, get sent to jail, to do a job, and then clear your own name.
Author:  Kethlar [Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:14 pm ]
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If you get tossed in jail, you should have to hack out from the jail to clear your record. The machine you have access to is a very low powered machine, but you can access your own gateway to copy any files you need (password_breaker and such). Or a bit harder, have to find a copy of your files on a backup server you have (good reason to keep backups) becuase your gateway is taken away.

The jail computer should only be able to be used from say 10am till noon or such so your limited on time or have to spend another day in jail.

If your cought hacking from the jail your computer restrictions are revoked and game over.

This allows special missions that can only be done from jail too, would be interesting to have to frame yourself, get sent to jail, to do a job, and then clear your own name.
Ok, you know this does sound liek a good idea.

it can be like the 'mole mission' where you do it on the side so to speak.
And if you do get caught you ahve to clear yourself to get out and not get caught in the process of clearing yourself.

You are right that does sound liek a good idea. Long tedious process of coding that part of the process. But once the current bugs are done I think this should be implemented or a version like it. I like this Idea. I give it a thumbs up.

-Kethlar
Author:  prophile [Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:06 pm ]
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Poll removed, please use polls sparingly.

It's a good idea though, but the thing with uplink/onlink is that it is your computer so it doesn't make much sense... you can't display RL on a computer.
Author:  Diamond_2005 [Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:05 am ]
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I once tried (for fun) hack the Academic database and FBI and search my own name and found it.
Missions like "Change academic records" or "Frame someone" are relatively easy to do (for an agent) so i was surprised to see that no one has ever tried to frame me as an agent or change my social/academic records. :evil:

It was understandable, because it' d mean immediate gameover.
:(
So i thought in my suggestion just to add (as I said) few simple credits tranfers to make it a bit more interesting. In example, someone transfers 80% of your money to other account and sends an email to you saying that you're progressing too fast on the agents ranking list and taking away too many missions from the bbs. Something about unfair competition between agents.

I also thought about the framing and going to jail, but it seemed kinda too complicated to put into exisisting mod. This would be much simplier, but anyway it depends on developers...I just tried to give an idea that wouldn't require too much programming.

Stay tuned :!:
Author:  Plankhead [Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:32 pm ]
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I don't see how jailbreaks would be feasible. Seriously, if you got arrested for computer crimes, why would they give you a computer in jail? Why would they give you a computer in jail regardless of what you did?
Author:  Kethlar [Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:25 pm ]
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I don't see how jailbreaks would be feasible. Seriously, if you got arrested for computer crimes, why would they give you a computer in jail? Why would they give you a computer in jail regardless of what you did?
That is where you are wrong today, as well as the more than likley in the futre, in 5 years that is. Comptuers will stiull be used in jails, they are today, they are using them to sell yout ings like, magazines food, everything.

This has been going on for the past all most 10-15 years. So Giving a comptuer in jail is nothing, and it is 'feasible', and computer crimes is so vegue. There can be alot of reasons and inditements that can go along with that, sex crimes by hitting on aminor? by fraud, govt hacking, bank fruad, indecent exposure... there alot more I jsut dont want to label them all.

Computers in Jail yes this is 'feasible' and doable, which is logical and can be done and is being done even to now.

-Kethlar
Author:  Plankhead [Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:52 am ]
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That is where you are wrong today, as well as the more than likley in the futre, in 5 years that is. Comptuers will stiull be used in jails, they are today, they are using them to sell yout ings like, magazines food, everything.
Are you sure you live in Arizona? The only countries I know of that allow computer priveleges to prisoners are Finland and Australia, and I doubt Arizona state law allows for computers if the rest of the US doesn't. I could be mistaken, but I've found nothing saying that prisoners have computer. In fact, a very odd website I found (http://www.meet-an-inmate.com/) which allows you to get an incarcerated pen pal clearly states that US inmates have no access to a computer or the Internet in large bold letters, and therefore only have contact through mail.

And unless all prisons are moved to Finland or Australia by 2010, I doubt Onlink would be very realistic in giving you a computer in prison. That last sentence was not an invitation to spark a "But the entire game's unrealistic!!!" debate.
Author:  Kethlar [Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:24 am ]
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Are you sure you live in Arizona? The only countries I know of that allow computer priveleges to prisoners are Finland and Australia, and I doubt Arizona state law allows for computers if the rest of the US doesn't. I could be mistaken, but I've found nothing saying that prisoners have computer. In fact, a very odd website I found (http://www.meet-an-inmate.com/) which allows you to get an incarcerated pen pal clearly states that US inmates have no access to a computer or the Internet in large bold letters, and therefore only have contact through mail.

And unless all prisons are moved to Finland or Australia by 2010, I doubt Onlink would be very realistic in giving you a computer in prison. That last sentence was not an invitation to spark a "But the entire game's
unrealistic!!!" debate.
Now you are just pissing me off. 'Are you sure you live in AZ, I have lived in the USA all my life you moron, I know where I live and what state iam in. Yes I have just moved here in November from Calif., but that is besides the point I knwo the country i live in and the State i live in.

Califonia, has the inmates use computers as well as Arizona, I have been inside these Jails, I have set up these computers, I should know. So dont give me this "I doubt Arizona state law allows for computers if the rest of the US doesn't." I have been all over this country and to different prisons, jails, state holding sanctuaries (Labor Camps from what it look like to me). And they all have computers and such for work release type of jobs and the like. Yes not ALL STATE JAILS/PRISONS have these and not EVERYONE ALLOWS this, but every single state that I have been to which is just about all all of them, at least 1 jail/prison in that state has a computer room in it, for job placement. These are Male and Female Prisons alike. If the Male prison didnt have it the FEMALE prison did have it, and or the Juvinile prison/jail, has it.

You think iam saying every jail has one in the USA? Hell no, this I knwo isnt even true from first hand knowledge.

As for that website, they are wrong and they dont have all the information obviously, becuase that is total malarcy.

-Kethlar
Author:  Plankhead [Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:38 am ]
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Kethlar, calm down. Seriously. You get pissed off way too easily.

Now, like I said, if you can show me some concrete evidence that computers are used in prisons, I will stand corrected. You have to understand, because this is the Internet I can't take everyone's word about their choice of career.
Author:  Kethlar [Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:09 am ]
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First of all,

I will not calm down and dont tell me what to do. If you even read the damn posts on here, with other people telling me what to do I do not take lightly to that at all. So do not tell me to friggin calm down.

Secondly, I cannot due to legal reason on WHY I CANNOT TAKE PICTURES INSIDE A JAIL OR PRISON.
If you knew anything about the law and the legal reprucussions(?sp) on why then you would understand.

Flat out I knwo what is true and what you are saying isnt, this is a fact. If i could show pictures to you from inside the prisons and jails I would that would be proof hell video i would love to doo too so You jsut dont think that I took pictures and reproduced them in photoshop or another pciture imaging program.

Frainkly Call up a prison, or Jail, or the like in any state, then as I said not all fo them do this I know, so in turn go onto the next one. One will have one period, I have gone to all but 5 states here in the US, Maine, Hawaii, Michegan(?sp), North Dakota, and Rhode Island, thoes are the states that i have not gone to which then I dont knwo about thoes jails/prisons.

Agian if you dont belive me call, and ask for the General Technician for the Comptuer Lab. They are an onsite techs which monitor all access through the computers in the facility. Again not all Jails have computers so they dont have one there, but if they have computers then they have a tech.

That is my proof, call them. Since I cant take pictures at all nor video due to legal restraints and commense sense on why I cant provide that kind of proof. Call them yourself.

Again Do not tell me what to do.

-Kethlar
Author:  Plankhead [Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:41 pm ]
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Kethlar, I'm not the one who's so interested in proving anything. If I were developing the game, maybe I'd call a prison and see what their policy is. But I'm not just going to randomly call up a prison and start asking questions because an angry person on the Internet told me to. If you would like the personal satisfaction of proving me wrong, you make the effort.
Author:  prophile [Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:24 pm ]
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Kethlar, you seriously need to calm down. Seriously. You are turning a lot of topics into heated debates about nothing.
Author:  Kethlar [Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:09 pm ]
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Profile no it isnt that, it is the fact that idiots like him, dont take into account that for legal reasons you cant take pictures nor take video of certin things. INSIDE a prison for one. Second, the FACT is that iditos like him dont take the time to research the facts they only read 1 thing about it ON THE INTERNET mind you, and not the newpapers or there of which then in turn when they are proven wrong, and they are given the information or the ability to call up or research it themselves and told how to. They dont take it upon themselves to do so.

It isnt every thread, it is morons like him who think they are right and when they arent.
And when they get proven wrong or told to do something to have them proven wrong, they get all pissy and pass ass about it becuase they know they are wrong and/or have the slight inclling that they are wrong they get all pissy and pass ass about it trying to prove they are right when they arent.


-Kethlar
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