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Author:  Rickton [Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:03 pm ]
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dunno how do you guys call that flu that stroke Europe for almost half of their inhabittants, here we call it the Spanish Flu.
We also call it the Spanish Flu, I think. Or just the 1918 flu.

Author:  FinalWarrior [Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:04 pm ]
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[dunno how do you guys call that flu that stroke Europe for almost half of their inhabittants, here we call it the Spanish Flu. It was also spread from swines]
The Black Plague?
The Black Plague/Death was caused by fleas, coming from rats, on ships. Specifically, it was the bubonic plague, which isn't at all related to the influenza virus. sentinel's probably talking about the Spanish Influenza outbreak of 1918.

-- Griffinhart

Author:  sentinel [Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:56 pm ]
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This was a great article! Loved the way he related real viruses to computer ones.
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The Black Plague/Death was caused by fleas, coming from rats, on ships. Specifically, it was the bubonic plague, which isn't at all related to the influenza virus. sentinel's probably talking about the Spanish Influenza outbreak of 1918.

-- Griffinhart
Indeed, that's what I was talking about! :D

Author:  PowdereDPersuasion [Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:24 am ]
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Ironically enough. authorities in europe during The Plague thought it might be cause by the cats that were wondering around the country, so they began killing them by the thousands. They had no idea it was from rat flees! If they had just left the cats alone, they would probably have been better off, a lot better off. The plague is also where we get the song "Ring around the Rosy". The whole song is very dark indeed.

Ring Around the Rosy= That is the identifying mark of the Plague. A rosy collored ring would appear on the skin.
Pockets full of Posies= People would actually carry around flowers with them to help with the bad smell, .
Ashes, Ashes= Anyone that died of the Plague, or was suspected of having died from the plague was burned.
We All Fall Down= The death rate was roughly 60%, so a lot of people "fell" down

And to think that most people have no idea what that song is about...

Author:  prophile [Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:47 am ]
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Ironically enough. authorities in europe during The Plague thought it might be cause by the cats that were wondering around the country, so they began killing them by the thousands. They had no idea it was from rat flees! If they had just left the cats alone, they would probably have been better off, a lot better off. The plague is also where we get the song "Ring around the Rosy". The whole song is very dark indeed.

Ring Around the Rosy= That is the identifying mark of the Plague. A rosy collored ring would appear on the skin.
Pockets full of Posies= People would actually carry around flowers with them to help with the bad smell, .
Ashes, Ashes= Anyone that died of the Plague, or was suspected of having died from the plague was burned.
We All Fall Down= The death rate was roughly 60%, so a lot of people "fell" down

And to think that most people have no idea what that song is about...
wrong

Author:  Gwanky [Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:50 pm ]
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Snopes an urban legends website suspected that a popular urban legends TV show was actually stealing urban legends from them, they made up a couple credible sounding legends and sure enough a few weeks later they were on TV. That is one of those false legends.

Author:  FinalWarrior [Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:08 pm ]
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Ring Around the Rosy= That is the identifying mark of the Plague. A rosy collored ring would appear on the skin.
Actually, the Black Death was called "the Black Death" because the identifying mark of the disease would be black marks that appeared on the skin. These black marks ("buboes") would actually be indicators of internal bleeding caused by the plague.
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Pockets full of Posies= People would actually carry around flowers with them to help with the bad smell, .
Close. A lot of medieval doctors believed that the disease was caused by bad air, and so people started taking up carrying around flowers to make the air smell nicer, in the hopes that they wouldn't breathe in the "bad air" and get sick.

Of course, all this explication is moot, seeing as the Snopes article already disproves the common legend that the nursery rhyme is about the plague.

-- Griffinhart

Author:  Switch [Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:43 pm ]
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Apparently the swine flu is not that bad. My sister and mom supposedly had it and they recovered within a few days.
A doctor friend of mine told me this, but I couldn't find any sources to confirm/unconfirm this, I would appreciate any:

"The swine flu is only a bit different from the normal flu. What really scared the shit out of scientists was the fact that it could mutate into one more simmilar to the [dunno how do you guys call that flu that stroke Europe for almost half of their inhabittants, here we call it the Spanish Flu. It was also spread from swines]. Also, the truth is that roughly 80% of Maringá citizens (my city, we had the worst outbreak of the whole South America) already got infected by the swine flu, but their immunologic systems had beaten it, and those people were now immune. Usually, only people with immunological problems, like people who have AIDS or other immunodeficiencies, or people who would get the normal flu should the ocasion be another, got infected."


Again: I don't have any sources to back this up, and would appreciate if anyone knows some.


Btw, hey there, ghost Miah and ghost Tycho. You guys want a rez?
My dad is a doctor, and my mom a nurse. They both agree that for the most part, swine flu is no more deadly than normal flu as it is now. The only really bad part about it is people are coughing once and panicking then taking time off of work or spreading their panic.

Author:  sentinel [Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:39 pm ]
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My dad is a doctor, and my mom a nurse. They both agree that for the most part, swine flu is no more deadly than normal flu as it is now. The only really bad part about it is people are coughing once and panicking then taking time off of work or spreading their panic.
[epicragemode]Tell me if this isn't laughable: my city had the worst outbreak of the whole South America, with terrible TWO HUNDRED DEATHS. Among other things, my city loses about one and a half THOUSAND people every year due to Dengue Fever (or whatever this diseased is called that. It's transmitted by Aedes Aegypt). People don't give a heck, and live on their lives. Now, you guys go figure, how could the government get so desperate about it, closing schools, university, and stuff. By the way, I usually kill two or three Aedes per week in my university classroom.[epicragemode]


Ook, ragemode is off, I promisse :mrgreen:

Author:  FinalWarrior [Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:38 am ]
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Depending on the size of your city and how good the healthcare/dissemination of health-related information is, 200 deaths might actually make sense.

(Oh, also this Dengue fever? Yeah, fuck mosquitoes.)

-- Griffinhart

Author:  sentinel [Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:47 pm ]
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Depending on the size of your city and how good the healthcare/dissemination of health-related information is, 200 deaths might actually make sense.
Precisely, what I meant is that the highest number was very small.
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(Oh, also this Dengue fever? Yeah, fuck mosquitoes.)

-- Griffinhart
Yeah, that Dengue fever. It's a real bitch pain, specially the hemorragic.

Author:  Rickton [Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:25 pm ]
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This Dengue Fever is a little more pleasant. But not by much! D:
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Author:  sentinel [Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:49 am ]
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This Dengue Fever is a little more pleasant. But not by much! D:
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What the MAYNARD? GOSH, there's a band? What next, "The Huntington's" ??

Author:  Rickton [Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:10 am ]
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Well, there's always Anthrax.

Author:  ghost_sypher [Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:55 am ]
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[dunno how do you guys call that flu that stroke Europe for almost half of their inhabittants, here we call it the Spanish Flu. It was also spread from swines]
The Black Plague?
*ARG*

Rats dude, rats! Complete different tail man! And actually it wasn't even them. Poor rats. It was the flea. No tail at all.
Well actually it was the bacteria "Yersinia pestis" but the flea spreaded it. The rats were just the buses, so to say.


"Spanish flu" (1918) could be about right. Its a subtype of the common flu (Subtyp A/H1N1). Actually the same subtype that caused the pandemic in 1977 called "Russian flu" and the one in 2009 called "Swine flu".

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