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Author:  eddieringle [Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Summer was long, need a refresher

Okay, I let 25% of what I learned in Algebra last year slip away over the Summer like all the experts say, and now coming into Geometry the teacher gave us a simple assignment.

I just need to be retaught the methods to doing this assignment.

Quite simply, I need to write three functions each containing the data points from three graphs I made.


Yeah, my brain isn't exactly a secure fortress, stuff slips out a lot and goes on cruises in the Caribbean and junk like that, never coming back. Also, I have no idea why I added that random and useless statement just now.

Author:  FinalWarrior [Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Summer was long, need a refresher

Uh, what are the graphs, exactly? Lines, parabolas, hyperbolas, ellipses, circles? Every graph has its own function ( = equation).

-- Griffinhart

Author:  eddieringle [Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Summer was long, need a refresher

Well, it curves upward, so it's not linear. Just a slight curve though.
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Author:  FinalWarrior [Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Summer was long, need a refresher

Looks like a semiparabola. y = a(x-h)^2 + k, x > SomeValue, where a stretches or squishes the graph, h moves the graph left or right, and k moves the graph up or down.

-- Griffinhart

Author:  eddieringle [Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Summer was long, need a refresher

Thanks for that, went to class and all the other kids thought it was half a parabola too.

Author:  FinalWarrior [Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Summer was long, need a refresher

You're just lucky that I'm reviewing functions (and logarithms/exponentials)in my AP Calc class right now... or I'd be about as stuck as you were.

Speaking of which, I should probably study for the test... meh, oh well.

-- Griffinhart

PS. By the way, can anyone show me how to solve for x in the following equation?

e^x + e^(-x) = 3

I know logarithms are involved, and I know what the answer is (it's something like x = (5 * sqrt(3)) / 2), I just don't know how to actually solve the equation. I mean, if you took the log of both sides of the equation, you'd end up with

x + -x = ln 3

And that makes no sense.

Author:  mc2m [Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Summer was long, need a refresher

First: ln (e^x + e^(-x)) != x + -x

To solve this you have to solve a quadratic expression
e^x + e^(-x) = 3
<=> e^(x²) + 1 = 3e^x
<=> e^(x²) - 3e^x + 1 = 0
e^x = y
<=> y² - 3y + 1 = 0

Now you can find the answer.

Author:  FinalWarrior [Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Summer was long, need a refresher

Quote:
First: ln (e^x + e^(-x)) != x + -x
Oh, I see... I thought you had to take the log of each individual part, not the entire side of the equation, because of the addition.

Okay, how did you go from
Quote:
e^x + e^(-x) = 3
to
Quote:
e^(x²) + 1 = 3e^x
? That's the only part I don't understand.

-- Griffinhart

Author:  mc2m [Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Summer was long, need a refresher

I made a mistake... It's not
e^(x²) + 1 = 3e^x
but
e^(2x) + 1 = 3e^x

e^x + e^(-x) = 3
<=> e^x + 1/e^x = 3
<=> e^x ( e^x + 1/e^x) = 3e^x
<=> e^(2x) + 1 = 3e^x
...

Author:  FinalWarrior [Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Summer was long, need a refresher

Ah, okay. That makes more sense. Thank you so very much for the help! :D

-- Griffinhart

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