I'm going to shut up now.
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| Author: | Miah [Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
Description is in the UL Research Centre. Ingame. You're given that link from the start. |
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| Author: | Hawk_v3 [Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
| I'm going to shut up now. |
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| Author: | Switch [Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
Quote: I redid the Uplink Laboratories Access Control System Hack to get to the v3.0 VSEC.
The second I click a lit square the thing bails on me.Here is what i saw and what the solver did. Orr...... Maybe i got extremely lucky another time....   This is where you try to access the console and the VSEC is armed  This is what the solver told me to click ( the purple squares )  And voila ... instant magic...  LE: And as for rules, the only thing that i find peculiar about it is that you have to solve it in 4 moves or less, or it will be sealed. You are getting lucky. I've tried using that solver the first time any many times since then. Miah's made it harder than that. |
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| Author: | Hawk_v3 [Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
And what if it's unlit only? |
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| Author: | hexagon [Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
Quote: The second I click a lit square the thing bails on me.
What 'thing', the VSEC or the solver ?
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| Author: | Switch [Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
Quote: Quote: The second I click a lit square the thing bails on me.
What 'thing', the VSEC or the solver ?It just bugged out on me and acted like a V2 though. Maybe that's happening to you? |
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| Author: | hexagon [Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
Maybe you're right, i have to do a little more research and then get back on that
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| Author: | Switch [Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
Quote: Maybe you're right, i have to do a little more research and then get back on that
Plus, I get 10 clicks before it seals.I've got a funny feeling there's a pattern involving what tile you can hit. Like, 4 clicks on unlit then 1 on lit or something. |
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| Author: | mackaybre [Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
From Hex's example, he clicked only 3 tiles and won. Unfortunately, he didn't provide screenshots of the puzzle after each click, so we don't know for sure how it responds. However, if I assume that VSEC 3 reacts the same to a single button push as VSEC 2 and 1 does, ie boolean switch all adjacent tiles we can start doing comparisons of what Order of button presses does what: I'll spare you the entirety, but each combination works by VSEC 1 or 2 rules. A2, A1, and D1 work for this puzzle by VSEC 2 rules, and correspond to pushing buttons in the order of OFF, OFF, ON. So does D1, A1, A2 and D1, A2, A1. A1, A2, D1 and A1, D1, A2 are Lit-Only solutions, and since someone earlier said they got shut out hitting a lit one, maybe that's the kicker. Code: START: ABCD
1 1110 PUSH A2: 0110 A1 1011 D1 0000
2 0100 1001 0001 0000
3 1000 0000 0000 0000
4 1001 1001 0001 0000
Now I haven't gotten a chance to play it in-game yet to test this out, but if anybody has seen any other examples of in-game patterns and wants to test this out, that'd be great. In the alternative, if Miah or Tycho want to just confirm I'm correct or at least on the right track, that'd be great also. |
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| Author: | Mursu [Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
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Plus, I get 10 clicks before it seals.
I couldn't agree more. Once it sealed after 2 (or 3, I'm not sure) clicks, and sometimes I get like 10 moves, regardless of how many moves it takes to solve the thing :/
I've got a funny feeling there's a pattern involving what tile you can hit. Like, 4 clicks on unlit then 1 on lit or something. |
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| Author: | Miah [Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
There might be a bug here. I need you guys to start recording video so I can be sure. Fraps works with Onlink. Just upload to youtube. Sorry in advance if there's a bug in here. |
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| Author: | hexagon [Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
Quote: From Hex's example, he clicked only 3 tiles and won.
I can't figure nothing out... yet, i've solved puzzles in which i clicked 7 times and then deactivated it, and on other ocasions, after 2 clicks it fails and seals it. All solutions are taken from the same Solver and the buttons are clicked in left-to-right reading order.Unfortunately, he didn't provide screenshots of the puzzle after each click, so we don't know for sure how it responds.... Here are sequential screenshots from a solved puzzle, this also has only 3 moves.  This is the original puzzle, as shown when i clicked to enter the console.  This is what the solver told to click.  First Click  Second Click  Final Click ...and...  Sweet Bliss 
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| Author: | Hawk_v3 [Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
The first one didn't register? |
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| Author: | hexagon [Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
What first one ? |
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| Author: | Miah [Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: VSEC Solvers, redux. |
Hilarity. There's a bug here, alright. It actually makes this system easier for you. /me rages |
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