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Agent Recoil's Gateway
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Author:  mansarde [Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Agent Recoil's Gateway
First of all, Onlink rocks! Keep up the good work, can't wait for 0.1.3 :lol:

I stumbled upon the Auxiliary-Gateway of Agent Recoil (you know, the Top Agent getting killed in the ARC/Arunmor Storyline).
But the Problem with Auxiliary Gateways is, of course, that you only can connect to them via your normal Gateway. All external connections are not permitted.

My questions now:
  • Has anybody managed (with clever ingame trickery) to gain access to a gateway from another person?

    And if not, can one of the developers in their spare moments can tell me if it's possible at all? Or is it just something undoable like the Uplink Bank Hack?
Thanks for your time and such a great game, kudos! :)

P.S.: Normally I feel uncomfortable opening new threads because, if you THINK you have searched everything and didn't find the thread already discussing your question and then open a new one, people think you were just too lazy and all hell breaks loose.
But after searching with several words like "auxiliary" or "gateway", in the end not even a search with only "recoil" came up with any post. So this should be the first post with it. If I'm wrong though, I'm really sorry. But please let me know then HOW I could've found it so I can learn to find it the next time. Thanks. :)
Author:  Miah [Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
It's against me to post any possible spoilers, but there are a few things that could bear mention other than gameplay.
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And if not, can one of the developers in their spare moments can tell me if it's possible at all?
I *think* I made it possible. It shouldn't be to hard to figure out how if I did.
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...not even a search with only "recoil" came up with any post...
The number one guy is random with every profile. If you made a new player, chances are recoil wouldn't even be on the top ten list.
Author:  mansarde [Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
Wow, I hadn't expected an answer that fast!
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I *think* I made it possible. It shouldn't be to hard to figure out how if I did.
Ok, the only thing I wanted to know is if it is possible at all so I wouldn't waste time trying to gain access. But now that I know it's possible I can give it a try, thanks.^^
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The number one guy is random with every profile. If you made a new player, chances are recoil wouldn't even be on the top ten list.
Oh, I totally didn't remember that from the old days with Uplink.
I hope then this question hasn't been asked before. :?

Anyways, I'm totally hooked with all the new security systems, etc.
Thanks for the quick answer again!

[PROBLEM: Solved]
Author:  Miah [Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
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Oh, I totally didn't remember that from the old days with Uplink.
This will get better, I assure you. The main guy will always be random, but in the new storyline, there will be a few constant names.

It's a bit insane right now. The proposed storyline has about five different factions with different agendas that takes place after the revelation crisis.

Talk about Faith in Chaos.
Author:  mansarde [Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
Yeah, it makes more sense that the best agent is always random, except if it's somehow relevant to the storyline.
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It's a bit insane right now. The proposed storyline has about five different factions with different agendas that takes place after the revelation crisis.
Very interesting. Sounds like full immersion. :)
And it opens a multitude of different Story-Experiences, each time you replay it.

I'm very thrilled and looking forward to the next release.
But take your time, something good is always worth waiting for.^^

And now I'm off, breaking into this damn aux-gateway! :mrgreen:

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EDIT:

I finally got into the auxiliary gateway of another Agent!
So it is indeed doable, but I first had to wait for the newest versions of some bypassers in the Software buyzone, because I had to hack into a "certain" server to get some info first.

Btw, is there any way to search for certain Personal Computers?
The one's I have I only randomly got from logs using the IP_Lookup via trial & error.

Just tell me if there IS a way, so I can go hunting! :D
Hints are always appreciated, of course.^^
Author:  Sabranan [Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
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EDIT:

I finally got into the auxiliary gateway of another Agent!
So it is indeed doable, but I first had to wait for the newest versions of some bypassers in the Software buyzone, because I had to hack into a "certain" server to get some info first.

Btw, is there any way to search for certain Personal Computers?
The one's I have I only randomly got from logs using the IP_Lookup via trial & error.

Just tell me if there IS a way, so I can go hunting! :D
Hints are always appreciated, of course.^^
As you say, it's quite possible to break into an auxiliary gateway. There's nothing much on there, but hey. It's a challange.

I do not believe it's possible to break into the actual gateway computer of an agent though.

It is certainly possible to find personal computers, as long as you know who's you're looking for.
Author:  mansarde [Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
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It is certainly possible to find personal computers, as long as you know who's you're looking for.
Care to elaborate on a little hint? :mrgreen:
Just point me in the right direction.

As far as I know, as soon as I have the name of the person I'm searching for I then can directly find out his/her phone number. But in order to find his/her Personal Computer I can only imagine to use IP_lookup on every IP I stumble upon until it matches the person's PC I'm searching for.
But that's dumb brute-force. Either a direct way to find PC's isn't implemented yet or there HAS to be another way.
Is there? :)
Author:  Sabranan [Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
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Care to elaborate on a little hint? :mrgreen:
Just point me in the right direction.

As far as I know, as soon as I have the name of the person I'm searching for I then can directly find out his/her phone number. But in order to find his/her Personal Computer I can only imagine to use IP_lookup on every IP I stumble upon until it matches the person's PC I'm searching for.
But that's dumb brute-force. Either a direct way to find PC's isn't implemented yet or there HAS to be another way.
Is there? :)
There is definatly another way. Have a look in Internic for "Network Access Servers", check which companies they are and have a look around on their computer systems...
Author:  mansarde [Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
Hmm... sure sounds like a nice direction.^^
I'll try to find the rest of the way, thanks for the hint! :D
Author:  ghost_sypher [Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
Well, if it's not possible to hack a personal Gateway, how come then, that they are able to hunt you down to put your sweet ass in jail?

Out of paranoia, I bought 5 auxilliary Gateways, believing, that only I could connect to them and any other external access would be denied. So if you route through them, the route search after a hack must find a sudden end at any of your Gateways that sitts in the path between your access point and the allready actively traced path.

But somehow they still must be able to enter the Gateway logs, read the route through logs and track you down.

With that in mind, I would find it unfair, if there are any unaccessible Gateways out there in the game.
Author:  Chase [Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
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With that in mind, I would find it unfair, if there are any unaccessible Gateways out there in the game.
Life.. and in this case video games, are not fair. The whole point is to stack the odds against the player, otherwise its too easy thus boring.

If you want a more logical reason.. They(the other hackers) have been doing this longer then you. Plus if its the company probably hired several agents, meaning they could have team work to break something that a single person/machine just can't.
Author:  Vaius [Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Agent Recoil's Gateway
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Well, if it's not possible to hack a personal Gateway, how come then, that they are able to hunt you down to put your sweet ass in jail?

Out of paranoia, I bought 5 auxilliary Gateways, believing, that only I could connect to them and any other external access would be denied. So if you route through them, the route search after a hack must find a sudden end at any of your Gateways that sitts in the path between your access point and the allready actively traced path.

But somehow they still must be able to enter the Gateway logs, read the route through logs and track you down.

With that in mind, I would find it unfair, if there are any unaccessible Gateways out there in the game.
Log tracing.

And your gateway is technically not a "Personal" Gateway, but a rented computer from Uplink.
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